John Grahill
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Too funny! They wouldn't know what was meant by that!If you really want to get them spicy, just tell them they haven't done 1 good set yet, how are they going to do 14 more?
Too funny! They wouldn't know what was meant by that!If you really want to get them spicy, just tell them they haven't done 1 good set yet, how are they going to do 14 more?
I'd run 1.0, 1.1, and 1.2 with your 28kg, then re-test your 10RM. Either find a new 10RM with one of your other bells, or do a RM test with your 28kg.Is it possible to retest my 10RM and continue or just get good with the 28 for a while till it’s rediculously easy?
Excellent! Great to hear!Love the carryover it has to manual labor. Work is getting easier and I am looking better after just one week of the program!
Ok so I finally committed to the giant with 2x20kg (light I know!) and I am on week 4 or the giant 1.0
Feel week 4 is a stall and I will struggle to get more reps but looking forward to increasing reps!
Thank you mate! Yeah I’m hoping to complete all cycles with the 20kgs then go into it again with 2x24 and hopefully will be a 10 rep max by the end! I reckon it’s about 7 atm! Started 1.1 this week and done the first two workouts. Feels good!If you make it through 1.2, I would bet you can get 8-10RM on the 24s with the volume you’re pushing homie!
I would also bet you can beat your weekly total to cap it!! Not as big as your other jumps but for sure 1-2 sets
kg | Reps | W / D | Weekly Total |
---|---|---|---|
16 | 26 | W1D1 | 84 |
16 | 27 | W1D2 | |
16 | 31 | W1D3 | |
16 | 46 | W2D1 | 141 |
16 | 51 | W2D2 | |
16 | 44 | W2D3 | |
16 | 50 | W3D1 | 152 |
16 | 57 | W3D2 | |
16 | 45 | W3D3 | |
16 | 66 | W4D1 | 143 |
15* | 39 | W4D2 | |
14* | 38 | W4D3 |
kg | Reps | W / D | Weekly Total |
---|---|---|---|
14* | 50 | W1D1 | 164 |
14* | 54 | W1D2 | |
14* | 60 | W1D3 | |
16 | 65 | W2 D1 | 201 |
16 | 60 | W2 D2 | |
16 | 76 | W2 D3 | |
16 | 75 | W3 D1 | 245 |
17 | 66 | W3 D2 | |
17 | 104 | W3 D3 | |
17 | 80 | W4 D1 | 260 |
17 | 84 | W4 D2 | |
17 | 96 | W4 D3 |
I treated the first weeks of the Giant as a deload. I think it worked well because I was also using the 20, 25, 30, 25 timing scheme.So my question is this: should I simply treat the first week of 1.1 as a deload, aiming to keep my volume pretty low, or should I do something else for a week before starting 1.1?
This is a great way of staying consistent. Geoff has another similar program called Easy Muscle that is "tool agnostic" - usable with barbells, dumbbells, or kettlebells; and @John Grahill has done entire blocks of Giant with only dumbbells.* I was traveling these days and used dumbbells at hotel gyms, cleaning the pair from the floor each rep. It was tougher than kettlebells, but fun. I'll continue to do this when I travel.
Progress is not linear. You are not always going to be able to add a rep or a set or even cut down on the time (increase density) week to week. Let the gains come when they're ready to come. I've spent an entire month just doing the same 5x5 on my heavy day, not even able to progress time. But that's OK.I feel in need of a deload - I failed on the last rep of today's final set (I didn't count that set) and still fell short of last week's Day 3 total.
Yeah, just take that first week extra easy. There have been many times I've run Giant where I just used 5 minutes as the default rest between sets on the first week's heavy day.So my question is this: should I simply treat the first week of 1.1 as a deload, aiming to keep my volume pretty low, or should I do something else for a week before starting 1.1?
I could not. It took about 12 weeks or so to bring my 5RM to a 10RM. Your mileage may vary though.Another question if you guys did Giant 3.0 with a hard 4-5RM could your progress to Giant 1.0 after just 4 weeks?
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Another question if you guys did Giant 3.0 with a hard 4-5RM could your progress to Giant 1.0 after just 4 weeks?
What was your path to get there?I could not. It took about 12 weeks or so to bring my 5RM to a 10RM. Your mileage may vary though.
What has worked best was to create a “bridge” where for the new month I increase every day by 1 rep, making a 3.1 and 3.2. 1.0 then just flows right out of that. This almost looks like an auto regulated version of Strong!What was your path to get there?
I have done 3.0 with my 5RM. It didn't get me to a 10RM either. So not ready for 1.0. What's in between?
I would say it depends on how “newbie” you are at presses when you start. If really new (or off for a long time), jumping to 1.0 is likely doable in one block. If you don’t have any low hanging fruit to pull, it could take several blocks of 3.0……but you can get a lot out of 3.0 by squeezing the rest periods.What was your path to get there?
I have done 3.0 with my 5RM. It didn't get me to a 10RM either. So not ready for 1.0. What's in between?
This is where Strong! comes in. You will spend some significant time with your 5RM. I think the whole program is 29 weeks, if you do all 3 phases with the Slow & Steady option. (if I remember correctly.) At the end of Phase 2, Slow and Steady, the 2x24s were more than my 10RM and I started testing 28s.What was your path to get there?
I have done 3.0 with my 5RM. It didn't get me to a 10RM either. So not ready for 1.0. What's in between?
Redo 3.0, you’re almost certain to get more out of it.What was your path to get there?
I have done 3.0 with my 5RM. It didn't get me to a 10RM either. So not ready for 1.0. What's in between?
Redo 3.0 as written or adding reps to the sets?Redo 3.0, you’re almost certain to get more out of it.
Also Strong, as recommended above could work very well for owning the current bells.
If you redo it, you’ll more than likely get more sets in. Keep reps the same, it’ll be easier to get more sets in.Redo 3.0 as written or adding reps to the sets?