Bradley Duggan
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Is there much diffrence in results from using Iron cardio or the giant. I know the giant doesn't contain squats. But in the long run would you get stronger using either programme. Would just like an opinion.
Much difference? Yes.Is there much diffrence in results from using Iron cardio or the giant. I know the giant doesn't contain squats. But in the long run would you get stronger using either programme. Would just like an opinion.
Whats the major difference apart from the squatting?Much difference? Yes.
Would both get you stronger? Also yes.
I mean that’s a huge difference.Whats the major difference apart from the squatting?
Thanks for the explanation, I've ran both. Would the giant be the one to pick for putting on size and looking good naked sort of thing whilst also getting press strength up. I appreciate the time you've taking to replyI mean that’s a huge difference.
You’re also looking at a lot more hypertrophy potential with Giant as the reps are 4-9 for 3 of the 4 programs. I would also say you can run giant singles back to back sets getting you a TON of conditioning (8+8 reps clean and press).
I think you’ll see less hypertrophy on IC, but you’ll be working with heavier weights more often, and it’s amazingly flexible with what you can do with it, so the main thing you end up missing are higher rep sets of presses for size.
With IC tho you are also looking at all the potential options for squatting, pressing, snatching, pull-ups, and almost any other exercise you can think, as well as easily being able to integrate other things like swings, humane burpees, armor building complexes etc as you alternate days. Which could also include doing a day of higher rep presses.
IC is limited by what YOU can do, and how creative YOU are. Giant is a simple “do this” program.
I would say so, unless you want to mix IC days with other more hypertrophy focused days.Thanks for the explanation, I've ran both. Would the giant be the one to pick for putting on size and looking good naked sort of thing whilst also getting press strength up. I appreciate the time you've taking to reply
I think that looks a lot like Bryce Lane’s 50/20. It works really well. I would suggest instead of picking a number (2s, 3s), either work in the 1/3-2/3 RM range or go by how it feels that day, and don’t be afraid of ladders so you can hit some top sets but not get too fatigued. I also wouldn’t tie the squats and presses together, and let them grow naturally based on how progress goes.Thanks for the replies, I have ran both, both are solid great programmes I'll always have in my tool box I always lean into the minimalistic training approach. I have been thinking about doing the giant 3.0.
And alternative days double front squat for the same time and rep scheme.
Mon. Clean n press 24s 2s 20 mins
Tue. Squats 24s 2s 20mins
Wed. Rest
Thu. Clean n press 24s 3s 20 mins
Fri. squats 24s 3s 20mins
And so on.
You might think why not just do IC. My reasoning behind it, laser focus on one movement, and decent volume to build a bit of muscle. Very minimalistic .
I know people hate when people f*** around with programmes
Thoughts?
Sounds solid thanks John.I think that looks a lot like Bryce Lane’s 50/20. It works really well. I would suggest instead of picking a number (2s, 3s), either work in the 1/3-2/3 RM range or go by how it feels that day, and don’t be afraid of ladders so you can hit some top sets but not get too fatigued. I also wouldn’t tie the squats and presses together, and let them grow naturally based on how progress goes.
For instance, earlier this week one day I did barbell presses for 2-3-5s for 20 min, then another day for squats I did 3-5-7 cause it was moving well.
With 50/20, the goal is 50 reps in 20 min before moving up in weight, but for kettlebells you may need more like 60-70 because of the bigger jumps.
Sounds solid thanks John, I'll utilise the ladders, awesome plan.